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[ChiefZilla]

Just a thought ... how do teams fare ats in the nfl after getting blown out? Not sure where you could define the term "blowout" in the nfl, but maybe 21 points? I know the Bucs got blitzed by 45 last weekend at SF, and now only 10 percent of the public is backing them as 4.5-point home underdogs to New Orleans this weekend.

[Black Mamba]

Based on another thread. It would be interesting to know how teams do when facing a triple option attack for the 2nd (or even 3rd if applicable) time in a season. I know there are many other factors to consider (ie. Army not typically as strong as others), but how they fare YPC against and more importantly ATS.

[Beyond the Bets]

(10-13-2011 12:54 PM)ChiefZilla Wrote:  Just a thought ... how do teams fare ats in the nfl after getting blown out? Not sure where you could define the term "blowout" in the nfl, but maybe 21 points? I know the Bucs got blitzed by 45 last weekend at SF, and now only 10 percent of the public is backing them as 4.5-point home underdogs to New Orleans this weekend.

The answer: http://wp.me/p1sRnX-3Vh

[Skating Tripods]

(10-13-2011 03:58 PM)Black Mamba Wrote:  Based on another thread. It would be interesting to know how teams do when facing a triple option attack for the 2nd (or even 3rd if applicable) time in a season. I know there are many other factors to consider (ie. Army not typically as strong as others), but how they fare YPC against and more importantly ATS.

I think one issue with this question is that, most of the time, your sample is going to consist of only service academies who run the triple option against each other and then Notre Dame.

One example I found was Temple 2009. Lost 27-13 at home to Army and then lost 27-24 at Navy the next week.

Except for each other and Army, I didn't see any common opponents between Air Force and Navy over the last three years.

I'll try to look at GA Tech and the three service academies later. I don't know what FCS schools run the triple option, though I'm sure they're more frequent.

And we'll see how SDSU fares tonight getting their third look at one.

[ChiefZilla]

(10-13-2011 04:31 PM)Beyond the Bets Wrote:  

(10-13-2011 12:54 PM)ChiefZilla Wrote:  Just a thought ... how do teams fare ats in the nfl after getting blown out? Not sure where you could define the term "blowout" in the nfl, but maybe 21 points? I know the Bucs got blitzed by 45 last weekend at SF, and now only 10 percent of the public is backing them as 4.5-point home underdogs to New Orleans this weekend.

The answer: http://wp.me/p1sRnX-3Vh

Thanks!

[Black Mamba]

(10-13-2011 05:25 PM)Skating Tripods Wrote:  

(10-13-2011 03:58 PM)Black Mamba Wrote:  Based on another thread. It would be interesting to know how teams do when facing a triple option attack for the 2nd (or even 3rd if applicable) time in a season. I know there are many other factors to consider (ie. Army not typically as strong as others), but how they fare YPC against and more importantly ATS.

I think one issue with this question is that, most of the time, your sample is going to consist of only service academies who run the triple option against each other and then Notre Dame.

One example I found was Temple 2009. Lost 27-13 at home to Army and then lost 27-24 at Navy the next week.

Except for each other and Army, I didn't see any common opponents between Air Force and Navy over the last three years.

I'll try to look at GA Tech and the three service academies later. I don't know what FCS schools run the triple option, though I'm sure they're more frequent.

And we'll see how SDSU fares tonight getting their third look at one.

Good point. I can't believe more schools don't play 2 services

I don't think the services themselves count since they can go against it everyday in practice. Thanks skating tripods.

[Black Mamba]

Auburn +22.5

Who is the last National Champ to be a 20-pt underdog the following season?

[patswin]

I'd like to know the ATS records of the 3 service acadamies when catching 30 or more points. I would think it would be good. Who wants to crush Army or Navy by 40 points. Its kind of unamerican, right?

[ChiefZilla]

(10-21-2011 02:44 PM)patswin Wrote:  I'd like to know the ATS records of the 3 service acadamies when catching 30 or more points. I would think it would be good. Who wants to crush Army or Navy by 40 points. Its kind of unamerican, right?

I'm both a nerd and I bet on Air Force last weekend so I looked this up.

You're on to something here. Not a whole lot of games that are 30+, so I took 27+ for the three service academies.

Since 2000, it's a 14-4 ATS record, including Air Force's cover as 30-point underdogs last weekend at Boise State. (It includes six Navy games, 11 Army games, and only the one Air Force game.)

I feel like these teams' styles might have something to do with this as well (running the ball a lot and eating up a lot of clock, making it harder for the opponent to put up a ton of points).

Full results below... Might be interesting to look even further back or expand it to 21 or more.

2011
Air Force +30 @ Boise St … L 37-26 (W)

2008
Army +27 @ Texas A&M … L 21-17 (W)

2006
Army +29 @ Notre Dame … L 41-9 (L)
Army +28 vs. Texas A&M … L 28-24 (W)

2005
Army +27.5 @ B. College … L 44-7 (L)

2003
Army +31 @ TCU … L 27-0 (W)
Army +31 @ L’Ville … L 34-10 (W)
Army +28 @ Cincy … L 33-29 (W)
Army +28.5 @ Air Force … L 31-3 (W)
Army +28 @ Hawaii … L 59-28 (L)

2002
Army +28 @ L’Ville … L 45-14 (L)
Army +29 vs. S. Miss … L 27-6 (W)
Navy +29 @ B. College … L 46-21 (W)
Navy +27.5 vs. Notre Dame … L 30-23 (W)
Navy +27 @ Wake Forest … L 30-27 (W)

2001
Navy +28.5 @ Toledo … L 21-20 (W)
Navy +27 @ Notre Dame … L 34-16 (W)

2000
Navy +27 vs. TCU … L 24-0 (W)

Total record: 14-4

[patswin]

(10-24-2011 11:55 AM)ChiefZilla Wrote:  

(10-21-2011 02:44 PM)patswin Wrote:  I'd like to know the ATS records of the 3 service acadamies when catching 30 or more points. I would think it would be good. Who wants to crush Army or Navy by 40 points. Its kind of unamerican, right?

I'm both a nerd and I bet on Air Force last weekend so I looked this up.

You're on to something here. Not a whole lot of games that are 30+, so I took 27+ for the three service academies.

Since 2000, it's a 14-4 ATS record, including Air Force's cover as 30-point underdogs last weekend at Boise State. (It includes six Navy games, 11 Army games, and only the one Air Force game.)

I feel like these teams' styles might have something to do with this as well (running the ball a lot and eating up a lot of clock, making it harder for the opponent to put up a ton of points).

Full results below... Might be interesting to look even further back or expand it to 21 or more.

2011
Air Force +30 @ Boise St … L 37-26 (W)

2008
Army +27 @ Texas A&M … L 21-17 (W)

2006
Army +29 @ Notre Dame … L 41-9 (L)
Army +28 vs. Texas A&M … L 28-24 (W)

2005
Army +27.5 @ B. College … L 44-7 (L)

2003
Army +31 @ TCU … L 27-0 (W)
Army +31 @ L’Ville … L 34-10 (W)
Army +28 @ Cincy … L 33-29 (W)
Army +28.5 @ Air Force … L 31-3 (W)
Army +28 @ Hawaii … L 59-28 (L)

2002
Army +28 @ L’Ville … L 45-14 (L)
Army +29 vs. S. Miss … L 27-6 (W)
Navy +29 @ B. College … L 46-21 (W)
Navy +27.5 vs. Notre Dame … L 30-23 (W)
Navy +27 @ Wake Forest … L 30-27 (W)

2001
Navy +28.5 @ Toledo … L 21-20 (W)
Navy +27 @ Notre Dame … L 34-16 (W)

2000
Navy +27 vs. TCU … L 24-0 (W)

Total record: 14-4

wow great find thanks for looking it up, i did have AF last week. I just think its too many points to give a service academy, those players seem to never give up

[RyanParrill]

Some information on college basketball coaches? All the preview magazines don't have much depth for the coaching staff.

[kreatture]

My question is simply this.. Where are you guys getting all these cool new avatars??

[Beyond the Bets]

(11-01-2011 01:55 PM)RyanParrill Wrote:  Some information on college basketball coaches? All the preview magazines don't have much depth for the coaching staff.

There will be a post on the 'top 5 best impact coaches' in the coming week or so, and that's a guarantee.

[RyanParrill]

(11-01-2011 02:25 PM)Beyond the Bets Wrote:  

(11-01-2011 01:55 PM)RyanParrill Wrote:  Some information on college basketball coaches? All the preview magazines don't have much depth for the coaching staff.

There will be a post on the 'top 5 best impact coaches' in the coming week or so, and that's a guarantee.

Yeah, my question was definitely worded incorrect. I want ALL information on the coaches. Where they sleep/eat/hang out.

But I look forward to an article on 5 guaranteed impact coaches.

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(11-01-2011 02:17 PM)Mr Lucky Wrote:  My question is simply this.. Where are you guys getting all these cool new avatars??

Different 'emoticon banks' from the world wide web. Also, a guy also used to post strictly-emoticons in a forum and sent me an e-mail with some.

[omgkyleflavin]

How much of a factor does experience actually play in early season college basketball games? Any chance we could get team's early season ATS numbers who are starting freshman or first time starters versus teams returning 3 or more starters?

[Beyond the Bets]

That would actually be pretty interesting, Kevin. One thing I always look for, particularly early in the season, is finding out who has a senior or returning point guard. It's so critical in the early-going and can really speed up the growth process for a team that's extremely young and inexperienced.

[oddsok]

I would love to know when top 10 (or ranked) teams in College football don't cover the spread, how far they fall short?

I'm exploring the idea of teasing top 10 teams together and wondering if there is any merit to it.

[kreatture]

(11-09-2011 06:21 PM)oddsok Wrote:  I would love to know when top 10 (or ranked) teams in College football don't cover the spread, how far they fall short?

I'm exploring the idea of teasing top 10 teams together and wondering if there is any merit to it.

Typically, Teasing College games is a -Ev proposition.. I can't imagine this would be a winning formula..

[The Posse]

What are NFL teams records ATS in the first half only? I've picked up on a trend with the Redskins and Bucs who have been godawful in the first halves of games.

[caseyd]

I am an old dog but am trying to modernize my old fashioned ways. I realize that databases like Iskoe and Meyers exist and are for purchase. Any suggestion on CBB for purchase out there? And actually is there any type of programs that can run simulations based on your query?