Fantasy Baseball

[Skating Tripods]

(02-17-2012 12:21 AM)The Posse Wrote:  I personally dislike doing divisions. In an unlucky year, there can be some terrible balance record-wise that screws over teams with better records. Also, I'm not a fan of spreading payouts too thin. Especially not for a $20-$50 league.

Depends on number of teams. If we get 12, 3 divisions of 4, top 3 non-division-winning records get wild cards, top 2 division winners get a first week bye.

Pretty sure most sites let you tailor each individual league as much as you want.

It's an idea. Not one that has to be loved by all or be the consensus we wind up with.

Quote:Hate to beat a dead horse but we gotta establish a commissioner.

I'd be up for doing it. Ran a number of leagues and currently run a 30-team hockey simulation league. Plenty of experience in doing stuff like this.

[gmen0844]

I vote skating as commish.. Everyone else agree?

[The Peoples Champ]

I second Skating, as long as he explains this 30 team hockey sim some more. I'm intrigued about what the hell that could possibly be.

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Just read through this, and I agree that while an auction would be fun, a snake would probably be the most likely way to get everyone together. Plus, it gives us the option to do a slow draft if we don't think everyone can be around at once, which is possible.

As for style, certainly think H2H is the way to go.

[Skating Tripods]

(02-17-2012 07:58 AM)The Peoples Champ Wrote:  I second Skating, as long as he explains this 30 team hockey sim some more. I'm intrigued about what the hell that could possibly be.

Will post about it shortly. We've got 4 or 5 league openings right now, too.

[illadelphia]

(02-17-2012 03:02 AM)gmen0844 Wrote:  I vote skating as commish.. Everyone else agree?

Agree on Skating for Commish

$50 would also be my max. Think $25 for the 1st year is probably a better idea as we get this off the ground and then think about upping it for year 2.

Snake seems to be the best way to go as it will keep things moving. Draft should be pretty late into Spring Training as injuries, sleepers, prospects, etc will be less of an issue.

I was in a league a few years back where it cost $1 per roster move, per week. That money was pooled and the team with the most points for that week got the pot. Not sure if that will work since we are all over the country but I thought I would throw it out there.

[Skating Tripods]

OT: Since TPC asked about my simulation hockey league....it runs off a simulation engine called Eastside Hockey Manager that takes numerical attribute values for players from both teams, uses designated line tactics, and spits out a final score.

My league, Eastside's Hockey Elite Collide, allows teams to be the General Manager and Head Coach, making transactions, managing a salary cap, setting the nightly lineup, negotiating with other GMs, drafting, setting training regimens, etc. Because the sim engine is 12 years old now, I've done a lot of work creating present-day economic conditions like a salary cap, a system for player contracts, retirement, and other stuff.

The engine generates its own schedule, but I re-write that to exactly mirror the NHL schedule. We sim one night of games with each calendar day. So, for example, tonight's games are ANA @ NJ, SJ @ CAR, WSH @ FLA, NSH @ DET, and so on. I also go through thousands of lines of numbers in a notepad document to create the real-life draft class. Our league file has all of the regular NHL players plus draft classes at all times.

It keeps me busy, but it's a lot of fun. Like I said, we've got 4 or 5 openings and it's fairly easy to learn. Hardest part, to me, is getting the sim engine to work on new Windows operating systems. It was made for Windows 2000, so you have to run in Windows 2000 compatibility mode or Run as an Admin. It also doesn't work with Apple computers.

If anyone would be interested, just shoot me a PM. The league website is www.ehechockey.com. All results, trades, and other things are posted on the league message board.
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Just to let everyone know, if you guys do decide to make me the Commish, I think we need to have a reasonably high innings per week threshold. That will force people to remain active. I'm definitely talking north of 30 IP per week. Figure 5 starts plus bullpen guys should be enough, maybe a sixth start every now and then if a couple guys get bombed.

[spanishredeye]

I vote for Skating as commish.

I'd also volunteer to be The Winnipeg Jets, but Im on a mac.

[Skating Tripods]

(02-17-2012 12:35 PM)spanishredeye Wrote:  I'd also volunteer to be The Winnipeg Jets, but Im on a mac.

There's a way to do it by getting a virtual machine running, but that's way above my technical knowledge. Jets are taken. Available teams are Dallas, Vancouver, Ottawa, and Buffalo.

[spanishredeye]

(02-17-2012 12:41 PM)Skating Tripods Wrote:  

(02-17-2012 12:35 PM)spanishredeye Wrote:  I'd also volunteer to be The Winnipeg Jets, but Im on a mac.

Jets are taken.

That person has great taste in hockey teams. :homer:

[TheHandicaper]

(02-17-2012 12:41 PM)Skating Tripods Wrote:  

(02-17-2012 12:35 PM)spanishredeye Wrote:  I'd also volunteer to be The Winnipeg Jets, but Im on a mac.

There's a way to do it by getting a virtual machine running, but that's way above my technical knowledge. Jets are taken. Available teams are Dallas, Vancouver, Ottawa, and Buffalo.

Oracle VM Virtualbox is the way to go. Pretty easy to set up, lots of forum help. I'm a windows guy, but have a virtual Ubuntu runing when I need it. Works like clockwork.

As for it all, I'd vote $25, and I also think the more fun/practical way to go is H2H. And I'm in on skating as comish.

[Skating Tripods]

Just wanted to say that I'm honored to have so much support from you guys to be the Commissioner of this whole thing. Having a pretty shitty day thus far, so it means a lot, as lame as that sounds to say.

[kreatture]

I don't visit the Off-Topic Forum everyday, so just found this thing.. MLB is my favorite sport and Fantasy Baseball is definitely my fav.

If you still have room, I'd love to be in. I'd vote $25-$50 to keep it manageable for everyone, and Yahoo for the site. I prefer Roto, but seems H2H is the preferred method here. If there's a running list, please add me if you have the room.

Cheers

[JSpauny]

Here is the running list right now:
1) gmen0844
2) JSpauny
3) The Posse
4) Skating Tripods
5) louiemdj
6) spanishredeye
7) TheHandicaper
8) mattrud
9) illadelphia
10) The Peoples Champ
11) mount187
12) Mr Lucky

Some of those seemed to be on the maybe side, but 12 interested people is certainly a good number.

[The Posse]

(02-17-2012 02:09 PM)Skating Tripods Wrote:  Just wanted to say that I'm honored to have so much support from you guys to be the Commissioner of this whole thing. Having a pretty shitty day thus far, so it means a lot, as lame as that sounds to say.

Let me know if I can be of any help. If you want to use that Yahoo league I set up I can transfer ownership to you.

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(02-17-2012 03:27 PM)JSpauny Wrote:  Here is the running list right now:
1) gmen0844
2) JSpauny
3) The Posse
4) Skating Tripods
5) louiemdj
6) spanishredeye
7) TheHandicaper
8) mattrud
9) illadelphia
10) The Peoples Champ
11) mount187
12) Mr Lucky

Some of those seemed to be on the maybe side, but 12 interested people is certainly a good number.

I know Lindeman is interested too.

[Skating Tripods]

(02-18-2012 05:56 PM)The Posse Wrote:  Let me know if I can be of any help. If you want to use that Yahoo league I set up I can transfer ownership to you.

That works. Thanks.

I'll try and organize this thread tomorrow. See if we can come to a consensus since it appears I'll be running this thing.

[gmen0844]

Thanks a lot skating for being willing to run this, I started the post with hope there would be someone to run it so i didnt have to haha... Should be fun guys, Good Luck

[Skating Tripods]

To summarize thus far:

1. The consensus is between $25-50.
2. Yahoo league is already set up.
3. H2H format.
4. Going to keep the categories simple. I'm not a fan of standard 5x5. 6x6 is fine. I'll make a post with 10 hitting and 10 pitching categories. Can select 6 of each. Majority win.
5. Still determining between auction or regular snake draft.
6. 12 guys interested, probably 8-9 in for sure (to those who aren't sure, what's holding you back?)
7. Monday March 27 draft, probably about 9:30 EST so it works for everyone, west coasters too
8. No consensus on keeper league

My thoughts:
1. The lower the better. We have varying degrees of experience here. I think we should encourage participation rather than discourage it. Even if a FFB rookie may experience beginner's luck.

2. I'll have Posse transfer ownership over to me. PM me your email addresses and I'll invite you via email so that we keep this private.

3. Good with H2H. I'd like to do divisions if we get 12. Either 2 of 6 or 3 of 4. Could do 2 of 6, division champs get bye, top 4 records in either division for non-division champs are wild cards. 3 of 4 would be 3 division winners, top 3 other records in, top 2 division winners get bye; unless we only want 4 playoff teams in a 12-team league.

4. Will post separate poll thread. Hopefully I can set it up to where I can see who is voting so I know that random people aren't voting to screw up the results.

5. I say regular snake because we have varying experience levels. Auction, guys will really have to understand the process. So, if we do an auction draft, we need to decide very soon so those who are unfamiliar can get a good feel for it long before draft day.

6. Definitely need to narrow this down and get confirmations from who is 100% in. Need a list of those on the fence as well.

7. If 9:30 doesn't work, we can always go to 10. I'm not sure what everyone's time zone situation is. Also, if we do an auction, everyone will have to be there and can't really pre-rank. Keep that in mind.

8. Again, like my above answers, with varying levels of experience, probably best not to do a keeper. If we get a solid core group that plays next year as well, then we can look at a keeper.

Anyone else have thoughts?

[lindetrain]

I'm definitely interested if it's H2H categories and money is involved...just let me know if there's a spot

[JSpauny]

(02-19-2012 03:02 PM)Skating Tripods Wrote:  3. Good with H2H. I'd like to do divisions if we get 12. Either 2 of 6 or 3 of 4. Could do 2 of 6, division champs get bye, top 4 records in either division for non-division champs are wild cards. 3 of 4 would be 3 division winners, top 3 other records in, top 2 division winners get bye; unless we only want 4 playoff teams in a 12-team league.

5. I say regular snake because we have varying experience levels. Auction, guys will really have to understand the process. So, if we do an auction draft, we need to decide very soon so those who are unfamiliar can get a good feel for it long before draft day.

8. Again, like my above answers, with varying levels of experience, probably best not to do a keeper. If we get a solid core group that plays next year as well, then we can look at a keeper.

Anyone else have thoughts?

3. I like H2H for this format. I think divisions is probably the way to go. Or we can always do 2 6 team conferences with the top 3 making the playoffs. Here's one thing I want to add: 2 week playoffs is the way to go. It eliminates a lot of the luck variable (such as a random OF randomly going off for 4 HRs and 12 RBI in the playoff week). I request 2 weekers in every league and typically it's for the best. Not demanding we use it or anything, but something else to consider. I know that limits teams in the playoffs because 4 teams=4 weeks so it has downsides, but it has positives as well.

5. I'm fine with snake. Auction really is a more complex process and it's really easy to ruin your team with one bad move. Also, if we hold this at 9:30 EST and do auction, I guarantee the draft goes past midnight which might not work for people with early morning jobs. I do recommend, for anyone wondering about its complexities, to go on espn and do an auction mock draft. That's where I honed my auction skills.

8. I tend to agree with the keeper thing. It's also a new layer to consider that could really ruin certain teams if done incorrectly. We do have to agree beforehand though that if we do keepers it will not be with rosters we draft this year. Nothing is worse than saying no keepers, then in September a lot of people want keepers because of who they drafted and keepers are allowed with those rosters. Making it keeper completely changes draft strategy. Not saying this will happen, but it has to be agreed upon that no keepers mean no keepers.

ST, just my opinion but I think we should stick with maybe 4 or 5 base categories and then vote on the final 1 or two. It might hurt a lot of people who aren't as familiar with baseball if we start getting too crazy with categories. Just my two cents.

By the way, since I got all this free time still, ST if you want any help with this I'm game man. I got shit else to do.

Forgot to add, any number I didn't directly address, I agree with your take on.

[lindetrain]

I say you either go with the 6-team playoff and pay division champs (who will get a bye) a bit less for winning their division, or go with the 4-team playoff and give them a bit more (considering they're not at an advantage in the postseason).