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RE: The Philly Godfather thread - Skating Tripods - 01-19-2012 01:35 PM
(01-19-2012 08:27 AM)Insider Wrote: What's the big deal about the Hilton Contest ? They use stale lines and anybody with $1,500 can enter. The contest has been going on for years and it's full of dead money(squares) each year. I love how some people act like it's winning the world series of poker or something lol
Have you ever picked 5 games a week for 17 weeks at a 70% clip? 65%? Even 60%?
It's a huge accomplishment.
RE: The Philly Godfather thread - DOP - 01-19-2012 02:28 PM
And there isn't dead money at the WSOP each year?
I suggest signing up next year Insider and seeing how it goes... don't knock it til you've tried it!
RE: The Philly Godfather thread - mount187 - 01-19-2012 02:55 PM
I've always been tempted to see how well I could do in the Hilton. I consider myself to be an average bettor at best, and I'd love to see where my picks would finish. I'm not curious because I think I'd do bettor than expected, but because I'd like to know how "some dude" would do. We know that in the WSOP, non-pros can more than hold their own, but my feeling is that bad decisions probably get paid off more often there than in a picking contest (maybe that's a bad assumption). Usually when I get these crazy ideas, I fire away on them just so I have a story to tell about it later, but I'm not sure I want to waste the $1,500 (and whatever fee I have to pay someone to enter my picks).
RE: The Philly Godfather thread - JSpauny - 01-19-2012 03:14 PM
I did a fake entry to the contest where I used their lines to pick 5 games. I didn't put much thought into it. Just wanted to kind of gauge myself to see if I actually put effort into it, how well I could do. My final numbers were 43-39-3 for 50.1%. If I would have put more effort into it, I would like to think I could hit at 55% or if I got really lucky, maybe 60%. But the people that hit that high are good at what they do. There is definitely a skill involved in picking at a rate above 60% for outcomes that should be 50/50.
RE: The Philly Godfather thread - Insider - 01-19-2012 03:15 PM
(01-19-2012 01:35 PM)Skating Tripods Wrote:(01-19-2012 08:27 AM)Insider Wrote: What's the big deal about the Hilton Contest ? They use stale lines and anybody with $1,500 can enter. The contest has been going on for years and it's full of dead money(squares) each year. I love how some people act like it's winning the world series of poker or something lol
Have you ever picked 5 games a week for 17 weeks at a 70% clip? 65%? Even 60%?
It's a huge accomplishment.
yeah against lines not widely available that you could never actually bet into.
The lines in the Hilton Contest are more stale than a loaf of bread left out in the open for 3 months. It's hardly a huge accomplishment.
RE: The Philly Godfather thread - Skating Tripods - 01-19-2012 03:20 PM
(01-19-2012 03:15 PM)Insider Wrote: yeah against lines not widely available that you could never actually bet into.
The lines in the Hilton Contest are more stale than a loaf of bread left out in the open for 3 months. It's hardly a huge accomplishment.
You didn't answer my question. Have you ever picked 5 games a week for 17 weeks at a 65-70% clip? Yes or no.
RE: The Philly Godfather thread - Insider - 01-19-2012 03:24 PM
(01-19-2012 10:22 AM)phillygodfather Wrote:(01-19-2012 08:27 AM)Insider Wrote:(01-19-2012 12:45 AM)phillygodfather Wrote: I don't mean to be a dick but @willcashsports tweeted this out in August of 2011. Offered @PhillyGodfather to take his Hilton Contest entry fee, keep track of his picks and if he would win, I'll pay 5x more than Hilton. Do you guys think he owes me some cash since I did win some money.. Hit him up on twitter and ask him where is the Godfather's money.. LMAO Marbles should keep their mouth shut!
What's the big deal about the Hilton Contest ? They use stale lines and anybody with $1,500 can enter. The contest has been going on for years and it's full of dead money(squares) each year. I love how some people act like it's winning the world series of poker or something lol
If you won the Hilton or finished in the money that's great but i wouldn't be running around acting like your some kind of super sharp wiseguy. I can name you a million people who won the Hilton who are broke now. It doesn't translate in being able to beat widely available lines @-110.
You remind me of all the tough guy's I knew growing up that used to tell me that they could fight Tyson or beat up Marvin Hagler then eventually they get in the Boxing gym and a 15 year old girl kicks their ass..
I had Top 10 finishes before in the Hilton and so have a lot of other people It's really not a big deal lol. You pay 3 nickles and enter. When Hilton Contest has New England -8.5 over NY jets and days later PINNY or CRIS is showing 7 you take the NY Jets +8.5 in the Contest. It's not rocket science. Congrats on the 8th place finish..But chill out..The contest has been around forever and zillions of people had Top 10 finishes.
RE: The Philly Godfather thread - mount187 - 01-19-2012 03:25 PM
Looks like we have another pissing contest on our hands. Anyone want to score this fight?
RE: The Philly Godfather thread - JSpauny - 01-19-2012 03:28 PM
(01-19-2012 03:25 PM)mount187 Wrote: Looks like we have another pissing contest on our hands. Anyone want to score this fight?
I have it PGF 29-28 after 3.
RE: The Philly Godfather thread - Cancerpirate34 - 01-19-2012 03:29 PM
(01-19-2012 03:15 PM)Insider Wrote:(01-19-2012 01:35 PM)Skating Tripods Wrote:(01-19-2012 08:27 AM)Insider Wrote: What's the big deal about the Hilton Contest ? They use stale lines and anybody with $1,500 can enter. The contest has been going on for years and it's full of dead money(squares) each year. I love how some people act like it's winning the world series of poker or something lol
Have you ever picked 5 games a week for 17 weeks at a 70% clip? 65%? Even 60%?
It's a huge accomplishment.
yeah against lines not widely available that you could never actually bet into."........................ As long as I have been growing up, there are always the critics and naysayers. These are the same people WHO HAVE actually done nothing with their lives. They sit and criticize others accomplishments, and bring them back down. They are like crawdads in a pot. As they try to get out, they pull down the one in front of them, instead of working together..........I have one bit of advice. Join the Hilton contest before you criticize. Actually try to be successful at something. Throughout all the times try into be successful, you will fail, not meet your goal, but you will get up and continue to try. Because Life is about striving to overcome, to be the best at what you choose......Not sitting on the sidelines, criticizing, and just barely existing......I know this for fact...Cancerpirate34
The lines in the Hilton Contest are more stale than a loaf of bread left out in the open for 3 months. It's hardly a huge accomplishment.
RE: The Philly Godfather thread - Insider - 01-19-2012 03:38 PM
(01-19-2012 03:20 PM)Skating Tripods Wrote:(01-19-2012 03:15 PM)Insider Wrote: yeah against lines not widely available that you could never actually bet into.
The lines in the Hilton Contest are more stale than a loaf of bread left out in the open for 3 months. It's hardly a huge accomplishment.
You didn't answer my question. Have you ever picked 5 games a week for 17 weeks at a 65-70% clip? Yes or no.
I never tried vs lines you can't bet into. What's the point ?? When I finished 10th in the Hilton one year I'm guessing I was anywhere between 60-65% But Like i already said the contest lines were a joke and not available for betting anywhere.
If I could pick 5 games a week for 17 weeks and hit at a 65%-70% clip Vs lines actually available for betting I wouldn't even be having this conversation with you lol Id be busy flying around on my Private Jet.
RE: The Philly Godfather thread - phillygodfather - 01-19-2012 04:18 PM
I would never call anyone a liar but if you are making claims of any kind please be able to back it up. If you talk the talk please show us that you walk the walk. By the way all the guys that followed line moves in the Hilton got burried. That shit dont work anymore.
RE: The Philly Godfather thread - Insider - 01-19-2012 04:51 PM
(01-19-2012 04:18 PM)phillygodfather Wrote: I would never call anyone a liar but if you are making claims of any kind please be able to back it up. If you talk the talk please show us that you walk the walk. By the way all the guys that followed line moves in the Hilton got burried. That shit dont work anymore.
If it doesn't work why do you play those 3 team parlay cards at Delaware ?? You know when PINNY has Eagles -2.5 and you can take +3.5 at Delaware ? You telling me that doesn't work ?? It's the same strategy in the Hilton Contest.
Only a complete Donk would take a Team -8.5 in the Hilton Contest or anywhere when PINNY has the game lined 7.
(01-19-2012 04:18 PM)phillygodfather Wrote: I would never call anyone a liar but if you are making claims of any kind please be able to back it up. If you talk the talk please show us that you walk the walk. By the way all the guys that followed line moves in the Hilton got burried. That shit dont work anymore.
The guys who did that and got buried will eventually win if that's what happened since sharps play numbers and Donkeys play teams. I see people in the Hilton contest jam picks in every week on New England & Pittsburgh and they could careless what the line is lol They don't even realize or care that they took a # 2 points off the true market price. If those guys did well this year god bless them. I don't know any true sharp who would ever take a bad # flat betting, picking apart parlay cards or in a contest.
We can agree to disagree though.
RE: The Philly Godfather thread - phillygodfather - 01-19-2012 05:04 PM
Key word in the sentence was 3 team parlay cards.. Now pick 5 sides a week and see what happens. You seem to have all the answers to nothing that works in your favor.. The only Donk is you my friend who has made claims of Millions of people winning the Hilton and that you have placed in the top 10 before with no proof at all. Listen to a liar long enough and he will tell you the truth. So I want you to keep talking as much as you can.. Got a feeling your other name is @willcashsports, don't hate me cause you ain't me.. You gonna pay up now!
RE: The Philly Godfather thread - SkyBlues42 - 01-19-2012 05:10 PM
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RE: The Philly Godfather thread - Insider - 01-19-2012 07:24 PM
(01-19-2012 05:04 PM)phillygodfather Wrote: Key word in the sentence was 3 team parlay cards.. Now pick 5 sides a week and see what happens. You seem to have all the answers to nothing that works in your favor.. The only Donk is you my friend who has made claims of Millions of people winning the Hilton and that you have placed in the top 10 before with no proof at all. Listen to a liar long enough and he will tell you the truth. So I want you to keep talking as much as you can.. Got a feeling your other name is @willcashsports, don't hate me cause you ain't me.. You gonna pay up now!
It's the same concept. When you do a 3 team parlay you pick 3 games from the entire parlay card. With the Hilton you pick 5 from the entire card all Vs stale lines. Please tell me what the difference is in strategy ? Would you really pick Patriots -8.5 in the Hilton when the sharp books have 7 ??? I really doubt it..No mystery how sharps pick apart parlay cards or make Hilton contest selections. Tons of people have finished in the money doing the Hilton football contest ..It's not exactly the world series of poker lol. You my friend take a shit in the morning and hype it up like it was the worlds greatest thing. Steve Fezzik WON the Hilton Contest in back to back years and doesn't brag like you. More Hype and self promotion coming from you than Don King in his hay day.
RE: The Philly Godfather thread - phillygodfather - 01-20-2012 01:15 AM
So let me get this straight you're telling me all you need to do is follow the line moves in the NFL and you can place in the $$$ for the Hilton Contest or even win it. Wow, did everyone hear that.. F^CK its as easy as pie baby.. You are also telling me a 3 team parlay is the same concept as betting 5 teams in the Contest, Vegas should hire you to run a sports book.. They should stop having the Hilton contest in 2012 because you figured out how to beat it. I guess Albert Einstein met his match when you showed up.. Good luck and I hope you hit the lottery one day. Anyone that thinks all steam is good steam is a F$cking Idiot...
RE: The Philly Godfather thread - Hooter5 - 01-20-2012 01:16 AM
Insider, you mad bro?
RE: The Philly Godfather thread - mount187 - 01-20-2012 09:04 AM
(01-19-2012 05:10 PM)SkyBlues42 Wrote:
Your .gif is going to need to be a painting, rather than a smiley face if you want to win this contest ...
RE: The Philly Godfather thread - phillygodfather - 01-21-2012 07:18 PM
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The following comes from an unnamed source……..
About 3 hours before the game T-Bob Hebert, Russell Shepard, 2 other receivers and a hand full of linemen got into a heated argument with Les Miles and the Offensive Coordinator about Lee getting more playing time and possibly starting the BCS Championship game. It got so heated that Miles benched T-Bob, RS, and 3 other players. He called Lee into his office and told Lee that he would not be playing in the game. The Offensive CO told Miles that he thought that Lee gave the team the best chance to win the game. Miles told the OC to start looking for a new job after the game and Miles will be calling the plays for the championship game. Apparently the O Line sided with T-Bob and Lee. They did not give their all in the game to prove to Miles that the players are more important than the coach. Now I know that this is hard to believe but when you look at some things it kind of explains a few things: I will list some:
Playcalling: Read option pass on 3rd and 10 – 4 times. Running the same 5 plays over 90% of the game. Overall, Horrible play calling. Running the ball in the 4th quarter with 9 mins and down by 21. T-Bob Hebert not taking a snap in the game. RS only playing 3 snaps and not touching the ball or getting looked at. Lee getting off the bus and walking 10 feet behind the team with his head down and looking dejected while walking into the Dome. Heated argument between receivers and JJ and O Line with O line coach on sidelines. And the kicker, reports that 2/3 rds. of the plays that were practiced up to the game were not run and the players were not told why. Again I do not know if this is entirely true but there seems to be a lot of truth in it just by seeing what happened in the game.