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Masters Betting - Stangrider - 04-01-2012 07:44 PM
Im not a big gambler when it comes to golf. But I've noticed a lot of people have Tiger Woods as a favorite to win is there any books taking action on the field against Tiger winning it all. Or do you just take a pick of any of the other golfer to win. Anyone that has bet this event feel free to post any advice or tips. I find the Masters to being a fun tournament on its own but we all know wagering makes it more fun.
RE: Masters Betting - SkyBlues42 - 04-01-2012 07:51 PM
5dimes offers the bet you are looking for. The field is listed at -545.
RE: Masters Betting - hbonn17 - 04-02-2012 03:35 PM
Anyone place any futures bets on The Masters yet? Looking into it, and was wondering if anyone else had any thoughts.
RE: Masters Betting - iKnowNothing - 04-02-2012 06:17 PM
I prefer individual matchups over player vs. field matchups but I'll do a little writeup on that since that's what you asked. (All lines are 5Dimes as of now)
Tiger +470
Rory +559
Phil +1084
I expect Rory to have some good early rounds. So his odds should only go down as the tournament progresses. Tiger will always have low odds and he finally got his first win so those are the best odds you'll get Tiger at if you think he's going to win. Phil has also been playing well. I hate taking the field early in a tournament especially after not getting a feel as to how people are playing. You're not really getting good odds either so it's not worth it to me especially at Augusta. At least one of these guys will be up high on the leaderboard on Sunday where you can hedge if you feel like. Tiger wasn't playing well the past 3 years but has gotten top 10s every year here. Rory will be pissed after blowing it last year. I'll probably play all 3 of these and hedge if necessary. All 3 will have to play bad to not make a profit and I can't see that happening with all loving this course and all playing well.
My big individual matchups plays are:
Angel Cabrera vs Padraig Harrington - LOVE LOVE LOVE this matchup. Cabrera is a perfect example of Masters experience. Placing 25, 1, 18, 7 in his last 4 even while coming in playing bad. Harrington has missed the last 2 cuts in the Masters. Get Cabrera at +105 for tournament and +100 for the first round. No idea how this is happening but place bets and ask questions later. I might put this in the Tout Zone later.
Justin Rose vs Hunter Mahan - Mahan has been playing well but Rose never misses the cut here. I'll take the consistency and hope Mahan struggles here like he has when he's missed the cut twice. First round -110 isn't bad but I'm looking at the Tourn -1.5 strokes at even money.
RE: Masters Betting - STS - 04-03-2012 01:29 PM
(04-02-2012 06:17 PM)iKnowNothing Wrote: I prefer individual matchups over player vs. field matchups but I'll do a little writeup on that since that's what you asked. (All lines are 5Dimes as of now)
Tiger +470
Rory +559
Phil +1084
I expect Rory to have some good early rounds. So his odds should only go down as the tournament progresses. Tiger will always have low odds and he finally got his first win so those are the best odds you'll get Tiger at if you think he's going to win. Phil has also been playing well. I hate taking the field early in a tournament especially after not getting a feel as to how people are playing. You're not really getting good odds either so it's not worth it to me especially at Augusta. At least one of these guys will be up high on the leaderboard on Sunday where you can hedge if you feel like. Tiger wasn't playing well the past 3 years but has gotten top 10s every year here. Rory will be pissed after blowing it last year. I'll probably play all 3 of these and hedge if necessary. All 3 will have to play bad to not make a profit and I can't see that happening with all loving this course and all playing well.
My big individual matchups plays are:
Angel Cabrera vs Padraig Harrington - LOVE LOVE LOVE this matchup. Cabrera is a perfect example of Masters experience. Placing 25, 1, 18, 7 in his last 4 even while coming in playing bad. Harrington has missed the last 2 cuts in the Masters. Get Cabrera at +105 for tournament and +100 for the first round. No idea how this is happening but place bets and ask questions later. I might put this in the Tout Zone later.
Justin Rose vs Hunter Mahan - Mahan has been playing well but Rose never misses the cut here. I'll take the consistency and hope Mahan struggles here like he has when he's missed the cut twice. First round -110 isn't bad but I'm looking at the Tourn -1.5 strokes at even money.
I love the one round matchups. I wish I could get the match to back it up, but if you are able to get a +140 odds in a matchup when the players are separated per round by less than a stroke it seems like a good pick. In my small sample set it has worked well.
I really like "no hole in 1" -125, but 16 scares the hell out of me on 2 of the days. The front 9 has only yielded 4 hole in ones ever.
Cantlay is the best amateur in the field and +200 seems like a good value there; however, 2011 low amateur Matsuyama (+200 also) is back in the field and experience at Augusta is important. Howeve,r seeing that these two numbers are equal with Cantlay being the better golfer I think that the experience of Matsuyama has already been figured in.
RE: Masters Betting - Beyond the Bets - 04-03-2012 02:48 PM
scott van pelt made a great point earlier today on tiger woods: the dude had zero confidence last year - none - was practically hitting pop ups on the course, was probably injured, played like complete crap for three days, caught fire on sunday and ended up finishing ... fourth.
FOURTH!
this time, he's coming off a win, his game looks strong, etc.
RE: Masters Betting - spanishredeye - 04-03-2012 03:00 PM
I don't think this tourney is going to be that easy to pick a winner.
Too many good golfers peaking right when they need too. Tiger is one of them.
Tigers putter will make or break him this week. Everything else seems in order.
RE: Masters Betting - SkyBlues42 - 04-03-2012 03:16 PM
(04-03-2012 03:00 PM)spanishredeye Wrote: I don't think this tourney is going to be that easy to pick a winner.
Too many good golfers peaking right when they need too. Tiger is one of them.
Tigers putter will make or break him this week. Everything else seems in order.
This ^^
You can name a handful of golfers that have been playing really well this year. And some that have come on strong over their last one or two events.
Instead of betting to win the Masters.. it might be better to focus on head-to-head matchups. Or hope that Tiger ends his first round 1 or 2 strokes off the lead. Might be able to get a better price, depending on how he finishes.
RE: Masters Betting - spanishredeye - 04-03-2012 03:24 PM
Bet365 has a bunch of 'Best 'Insert Nationality Here' that might be worth looking at.
Ill maybe list some things I decide to play tomorrow night. I won't be ready before then.
RE: Masters Betting - braleigh - 04-04-2012 08:51 AM
i've posted my matchup picks (ten total) here: http://degeneratesdigest.wordpress.com/2012/04/04/hello-friends/
iKnowNothing, definitely on board with your cabrera > paddy pick as you'll note in my link. also really like sned > fowler, laird > howell 3, and woodland > stanley of the ones i posted (but i like them all obviously).
RE: Masters Betting - Wiseguy - 04-04-2012 09:00 AM
I think there is tremendous value in some guys, Day +3300, Rose +3000, and Scott +3000 are all good values. The best one value wise is Cabrera +6600! Guy always plays well at Augusta.
RE: Masters Betting - Stangrider - 04-04-2012 09:44 AM
I placed a couple of picks on who will win it all besides the obvious Tiger future. My long shot picks are
Jason Day +3500
Angel Cabrera +7000
Jim Furyk +8000
For fun and giggles Randal Lewis and Ian Woosman the longest odds +30000. $10 bets
Great write up by IKnow Nothing. Will def follow along the matchup plays and make some wagers on some. Let's enjoy some golf
RE: Masters Betting - STS - 04-04-2012 09:51 AM
201201 ALL BETS ACTION
201202
201203 UNITED STATES -160
201204 IRELAND +450
201205 ENGLAND +500
201206 MAINLAND EUROPE +700
201207 AUSTRALIAN +1200
201208 THE FIELD (REST OF THE WORLD) +1400
201209 SOUTH AFRICA +1400
201210 SCOTLAND +6500
201211 WALES +50000
Can also take the best of the nationality like:
For most nationalities listed.
THE MASTERS - TOP IRISH
201473 RORY MCILROY -500
201474 GRAEME MCDOWELL +550
201475 PADRAIG HARRINGTON +700
201476 DARREN CLARKE +3300
Tiger Odds:
Makes the cut
N +800
Y -2000
to win +450
Top 6 finish
-175
Top 10 finish
-425
Top past champion
-150
Top USA player
+135
Woods or McIlroy +200
the field -270
Tiger First round leader
+600
Finishing position
o 3 1/2 -150
u 3 1/2 +120
RE: Masters Betting - SkyBlues42 - 04-04-2012 11:47 AM
Webb Simpson at 66-to-1 is my favorite play so far. Also like Adam Scott (32-to-1) and Rory McIlroy (6.25-to-1).
RE: Masters Betting - STS - 04-04-2012 12:34 PM
I like Webb Simpson a lot but no debutant has won since fuzzy in 78 and only 3 ever. As Todd fuhrman said that stat is already figured on so he should have less favorable odds outside of this variable.
RE: Masters Betting - SkyBlues42 - 04-04-2012 01:18 PM
(04-04-2012 12:34 PM)STS Wrote: I like Webb Simpson a lot but no debutant has won since fuzzy in 78 and only 3 ever. As Todd fuhrman said that stat is already figured on so he should have less favorable odds outside of this variable.
There's a 4th time for everything
RE: Masters Betting - Skating Tripods - 04-04-2012 01:32 PM
I took Kuchar at 66/1, but I don't particularly like it now. He's too short off the tee to deal with wetter conditions on Thursday and Friday. The wet greens also negate the putting advantage he'd have had over some of the other guys. But, he can stick the irons from 75 to 150 while other guys with less touch could have a harder time with wet soft greens and long putts based on bad approaches.
We'll see. I just want something to root for on Sunday when I'm ignoring my family at Easter.
RE: Masters Betting - the dude - 04-04-2012 01:51 PM
How much do you guys wager on golf future bets in terms of your total bankroll?
I've never placed a bet on golf. To me, it seems like an absolute crapshoot. But, I'd like to get one or two in for the Masters.
I usually bet 2-5% of my bankroll on my NHL/NCAA/NFL bets, which is in the $20-$100 range.
For example, looking to bet Immelman at +12960. What would be a good rule of thumb to stake?
RE: Masters Betting - SkyBlues42 - 04-04-2012 02:03 PM
If you think the futures are a crapshoot.. look into head-to-head matchups and other props. There are many more options out there.
RE: Masters Betting - iKnowNothing - 04-04-2012 03:38 PM
(04-04-2012 01:51 PM)the dude Wrote: How much do you guys wager on golf future bets in terms of your total bankroll?
I've never placed a bet on golf. To me, it seems like an absolute crapshoot. But, I'd like to get one or two in for the Masters.
I usually bet 2-5% of my bankroll on my NHL/NCAA/NFL bets, which is in the $20-$100 range.
For example, looking to bet Immelman at +12960. What would be a good rule of thumb to stake?
On Immelman winning? $0
But seriously if you like Immelman at those odds, bet $10 max. There's too many favorites and hot golfers right now. If Immelman pulls it off and gets lucky like in 2008, you got $1296. I usually place around 5% of my bankroll on individual matchups. They're easier to contain on the unpredictable nature of golf. For futures, I'd recommend a lower amount based on the odds you get/how strongly you feel about the play. (I'd rather take Immelman against Furyk for the tournament at +105 if you're dead set on betting him but even then I'd recommend against it).